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Orgone debate!

Postby DemieLune » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:38 pm

Ok, I've read here and there some stuff about orgones, and some comments.
I'd like to make one thread about this...

It seems that some people are totally hooked to orgones, some thinks it's a scam.
Some believe in it, with laugh at the idea of buying orgones and make their own...
I'd like your thought about this.

Real or scam?
What is a fair price?
Easy to make or go buy cuz you need to know what your doing?
Etc. :D
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Serathema » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:45 pm

Scam, for obvious reasons.

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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Beta the Pilgrim » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:55 pm

Serathema wrote:Scam, for obvious reasons.

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maybe but have proven excellent for a focus when meditating...plus they are pretty to look at and wwas worth the price but to each their own in this chaotic order that is life.
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:10 pm

I say real. There are some scammers who make ineffective pieces however. I can name a few like "Nun Tech" etc. A provider I know who taught me how to make, drilled NunTech pieces open, only to find plastic colored like metal.

I've done many experiments on the pieces I've made, and I know they work. Not so sure about all the claims that is made such as "Disarms and repels predatory forms of life". I don't support that one. But I have tested it with Ice experiment, Dream experiment, and Plant experiment, all of those worked. Also it seems to protect from UV radiation a bit. I am fair skinned, and the work area I use to make orgone in is littered with pieces. I make it outside and only during sunny days. I am a ginger :). However I do not get as burned as I should. The burn is still there, but its not lobster burn. I spend anywhere between 2-8 hours in direct sunlight making them (In metro Atlanta).

Experiment's I have done include Ice, Plant, Dream, and Healing. My cousin had a 4 inch galbladder stone removed. It was estimated (since he is in a wheel chair) it would take 2-3 months for him to heal. I put a HHG pyramid under his bed and he is fully healed now, and it has been 6 weeks since surgery. Dream experiment, when I lived with some friends, I hid some under their beds without their knowledge. Very next day they talked about crazy but fun dreams they were having. Replicated the experiment with my grandmother, same results. She was un-knowing of the orgone HHG under her bed. Replicated it again with my dad who suffers from chronic nightmares, but was knowing of the orgone HHG under his bed. Remedied his nightmares and he enjoys his dreams. He describes his dreams as "Another world".

Plant experiment. I have tested various metals using this. Claims are, is that it makes plants grow quicker, larger, healthier by being near them (aka seed test). So I placed a Iron one next to some germinating seeds (catnip). A full Copper one, and a full aluminum one. And a control on other side of the house with no orgone near it. Control took 2 weeks before sprout. Iron took 2 weeks before sprout. Copper took 2 days for sprout. Aluminum took 1 week. Results, Iron does not work for plant growth. Copper is best. Aluminum soso.

And I can post my Ice experiment pictures if you want. I have about 50+ photos. 1 of each metal, 1 of different metal/additive combo's. Control ice looks TOTALLY different than Orgone Ice.

I am very positive orgone does at least some of the claims.
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby DemieLune » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:48 pm

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts :)
And thank you Micah for this detailed experiments explanations.
I'd like to see a couple of your Ice pictures that you mention :) If it's not too complicated for you :mrgreen:
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:19 pm

Alright this will take a while. :)

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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:22 pm

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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:24 pm

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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:08 pm

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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:08 pm

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And my newest batch of large TB (or mini HHG) don't know how to classify the mold. I can fit 6 TB's inside one.

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That took a long time.

List of crystals in the Copper, brass, iron, steel, and aluminum + mix (a), (b), (c), and (d) is

The crystals in the mix are : Amethyst, Aventurine, Bionized Sand, Bionized Clear Quartz, Bionized Citrine, Bionized Hematite, Bionized Amethyst, Bionized Carnelian, Bionized Sand, Bionized Smoky Quartz, Black Tourmaline, Blue Apatite, Blue Kyanite, Carnelian, Citrine, Clear Quartz, Dumortierite, Garnet, Granet, Green Tourmaline, (Tibetan) Herkimer, (White) Howlite, Labradorite, Lepidolite, Lemurian Quartz, Marble, Mica, Peridot, Petalite, Selenite, Sodalite, and Topaz (yellow).
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Beta the Pilgrim » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:06 am

that was a lot of pictures need spoilers
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Serathema » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:10 am

Beta the Pilgrim wrote:that was a lot of pictures need spoilers
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:41 am

Want some more? I got control + results of HHG sized pyramids. (Ateco 7").
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby crowdk0ntrol » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:20 am

Micah time for phase 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical ... _equipment

Can you measure and take some screen shots or video? That would be awesome.

Oh yeah. Have you tried the cloud buster yet?
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Re: Orgone debate!

Postby Micah » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:03 am

crowdk0ntrol wrote:Micah time for phase 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical ... _equipment

Can you measure and take some screen shots or video? That would be awesome.

Oh yeah. Have you tried the cloud buster yet?


I don't have enough money to get any of those. I am a no income. I funded my orgone making by selling MTG cards. And selling some that I made.

Oh and on the CB note. It takes about 5 gallons of resin. 35$+12 shipping+3handling per galon = out to a lot of money just for the resin. I do not have enough metal to fill a bucket of that size either. :(

I would love to make one though. My dad has all the equipment to cut out the lid.
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